June 16, 2018
If you’re new to the FIRE community and this little corner of the internet, you’d be forgiven for thinking this whole thing is just about investing.
That’s all everyone seems to talk about, in forums, facebook groups and even in real-life. Whether it’s debating property vs shares, index funds vs active investing, or debt strategies. Most conversations are only moments away from circling back to investing.
And I’ll admit, it’s certainly the most intellectually stimulating bit to talk about. But at the end of the day, we’ve only got so much time and attention.
So we have to make sure that we are allocating our attention where it’s going to get maximum rewards.
In essence, we want to do stuff that moves the needle the most. So, today I want to compare saving and investing. Let’s zoom out a bit from all the chatter and figure out where most of your focus should go by default.
As with most things, there are cases to be made on both sides – and it’s not anepi either/or debate – both matter. But let’s flesh it out because there are some important points to make.
A common newbie assumption goes something like this:
“I don’t really want to bother with saving. Can’t I just make a few really good investments that will make me rich? ”
Is it possible? Yes, technically almost anything is possible.
Is it likely? No.
Think about it. The higher your spending, the more investments you need to fund that level of spending. If you want a $150k lifestyle, you need way more invested than someone who’s content on $60k.
Not only are you making it harder to find money to invest, but you’ve also made the goal much harder to reach – effectively multiplying the difficulty level!
Trying to “invest your way out” of overspending is basically wanting all the reward with none of the effort.
It’s like wanting a great physique while still gorging on junk food every day.
When people do that, they usually decide to “out-train” their diet. They go hard in the gym and hope it cancels out their crappy eating habits.
On the money side of things, it’s the same pattern: you’re trying to “out-earn” your crappy spending choices. You try to push your portfolio harder, take more risk, and chase higher – often unreasonable – returns.
All to make up for the fact you don’t want to make any personal changes.
You can probably guess how that ends in most cases.
The reality is, better results come from grown-up decisions. From making tradeoffs that might not feel good at the time.
At some point you decide the “harder” choice now (saving more, spending smarter) is actually the best long term choice. And the funny thing is, once you put in the effort and begin to see progress, it’s incredibly satisfying.
Most people see this effort as pain. But when you see the results, effort starts to feel like a kind of freedom, because that’s where it’s leading you.
But you’re probably thinking, “surely if I get high returns that’s going to be more powerful than being a tightarse” Well, let’s think about that.
There are basically two levers you can pull:
Say right now you’re saving 20% of your income. You invest that in something sensible – like index funds – and long term you get around 8% returns per year.
Now say you decide to get more deliberate with your lifestyle and money habits.
You start looking carefully at what groceries you’re buying. You stop seeing your vehicle choice as part of your identity. You optimise all the bills in your life, questioning everywhere your money is going. You stop buying random shit you don’t really need or going out to eat simply when you’re bored.
Over time, that 20% savings rate becomes 50%.
That’s not some crazy extreme scenario. For a lot of households, that’s achievable with effort and time. In this example, you’ve just increased your savings rate AKA your household profit by 2.5x – double and a half.
Now let’s think about doing the same thing on the investing side.
Can you boost your returns 2.5x? From 8% per year to 20% per year, on a long term basis?
That’s a very different game. For 99.9% of people, it’s not going to happen. Now I know some people think 20% isn’t that high, because we’ve had an amazing period of investing returns for the last 10-15 years. But please understand, that’s not the norm. At some point, returns will be terrible for a while… then what?
But let’s put some numbers to it. Say you’ve got $200k invested. Instead of earning an 8% return, let’s say you can bump that up, sustainably, to 12% per annum. That’s an extra 4%, or $8k in a year on your $200k. That would be an incredible feat… you’d eventually be able to get a super-high paying job running your own fund with that kind of outperformance.
Or you could just earn/save an extra $8k per year. Which one do you think would be easier and more repeatable?
And here’s the thing: even if you aim for higher returns instead of higher savings – AND you achieve it somehow – the lower spender will still beat you to FI.
Why? Because their target is much lower. So it’s still gonna take you longer to reach your goal.
Both saving more and getting higher returns are trying to achieve the same goal – building wealth faster. But only one of those is in your control. The other one is largely out of your hands.
If you want the odds stacked in your favour, you lean into the thing you can change. Here’s how I want you to think about it:
Every extra chunk you save doesn’t just represent more money in your account – repeating that action is literally going to mean months, or years, of freedom brought forward.
Instead of trying to make your investing compensate for your high spending, you’ll get much better results by getting your spending under control. Since ultimately, there is no amount of money that you can’t spend.
We can’t control or even influence the markets and our returns. But we can, if we’re honest, control our spending. And that flows through to everything:
If you keep your spending high and then expect your investments to perform miracles, you’ve essentially just created a stressful game for yourself.
If you design a more efficient lifestyle and keep more of your income, suddenly you only need modest returns to get where you’re going.
You end up with a shorter journey, less stress, better odds and more predictability over your outcome.
From a practical standpoint, that’s hard to argue with.
So why not focus on the area that is more likely to reward our efforts? Spending 10 hours a week trying to find better investments or outsmart the market may prove fruitful. But it’s more likely that it won’t.
In contrast, even 1-2 hours a week spent thinking about and optimising your bills and living expenses, is likely to be very well rewarded. When you focus all your efforts on investing, then subconsciously, deep down you know it’s a vulnerable position to be in.
You know that any month the market might shit itself, your luck might run out, or sentiment changes, and all your outperformance could disappear.
We all know compound interest is powerful. But the bit people gloss over is this: it takes a long time to truly work its magic.
If your plan is to reach FI in 10–15 years, compounding doesn’t have decades and decades to do its thing. In that timeframe, the main driver of your progress is your savings rate.
f you read my first book, you’ll know this intimately, as I talk about it at length. But when you crank up your saving:
That’s why I’ve always banged on about frugality, optimisation, and lifestyle design. Because saving well is the most powerful lever you have, especially in the earlier years.
But don’t get me wrong. Once you’ve got a sizable amount of money invested, then increasing investment returns will have more impact. But you need to build up that money first – and you do that by earning and saving.
Yes, you can borrow money too, but that’s a topic for another day.
Ultimately, there’s no point being the best investor in the world when you’re saving $100 a week. And if you’re saving $1,000 a week, you’ll make great progress even if you’re not a great investor.
So as much as I enjoy talking about investing, whether you reach early retirement or not is mostly about your savings habits, not whether you find the perfect ETF or the best strategy.
After looking around the online space for examples, I noticed the people who become financially independent at a young age share a few things in common…
They are (or were) hardcore savers with strong money management skills and efficient lifestyles. Most shun consumerism to prioritise their goals, realising that modern life is still good without big spending. And by understanding there’s no benefit in playing status games with everyone else trying to look rich (while being hopelessly broke).
Their happiness tends to come from:
If that’s the outcome you want, there’s no shame in copy-pasting the approach. Here in Australia, we’ve got our own examples:
You’ve heard my story. There’s also Pete Wargent who reached FI at 33 with his wife through serious saving and simple investing – using capital city property and diversified shares.
You’ve got Aussie Firebug, who’s now basically FI in his 30s. And I’ve met several readers – like one bloke who lives 10 minutes from me – who’s retired in his 30s to spend more time with family. I interviewed him here.
Not everyone’s public though. Some people prefer their privacy, so you’ll never see all the stories of people who’ve done it – only a few. If you’ve been to one of my meetups in Perth, or been in FB groups long enough, you’ll see there are plenty of people now in impressive positions.
And every normal story has the same basic structure: earning well, committed saving, moderate spending and consistent investing.
Let me put it another way. Investing is important. It’s basically like your rocketship to long-term riches. But saving is the fuel. No fuel, and your rocket isn’t going anywhere!
If you’re earlier on your FI journey:
On the investing side, keep it simple and consistent. Pick a sensible approach – index funds, property – whatever your preferred approach is – and just keep feeding the portfolio.
If you’re further along:
A focus on saving does the following:
Honestly, optimising your money and building a strong savings rate is the best return on effort you’ll ever get. It pays off immediately and for the rest of your life.
And remember, this isn’t just about one magic day where you quit work. This is also what gives you options along the way – going part-time earlier, taking long breaks, switching to work you actually enjoy, or easing into semi-retirement instead of slogging it out for another 5-10 years.
If you try to chase huge returns without fixing your spending, it will keep your FI number high, stretch out the journey, and quite possibly backfire as you end up underperforming a simpler approach.
Even if you ignore what I’m telling you, as long as you’re saving something and investing, you’ll probably still retire earlier than the average person.
Just understand that taking a sub-optimal approach is probably going to come at a cost: likely an extra decade or so of work.
You can always look at optimising your investing approach for higher returns later. But do it AFTER you’ve mastered your personal finances. Otherwise you’ll waste years trying to find some secret strategy while sitting on a piddly amount of savings before you realise the truth.
And I get it – saving doesn’t sound as sexy as getting big returns. But it’s a whole lot easier to do, it’s repeatable, and it’s guaranteed to work.
The goal is designing a lifestyle with ample surplus cashflow that’s also enjoyable. You save aggressively and you invest simply, giving you the highest probability path to freedom – sooner than most people can even fathom. And importantly, along the way, you become the kind of person who doesn’t even need an expensive lifestyle to feel rich – which is why the money part works in the first place.
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As a fellow blogger, I enjoyed the amount of internal linking in this post. Pointed me to a few posts I’ve missed.
Yes, investing will get you know here unless you have some dry powder in the keg.
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Thanks Pat. I wasn’t sure if it was too many links but it felt relevant to bring it together.
Hi Dave! enjoyed reading your posts, can i ask your opinion on Vanguard Shares! Australian and International ? and the best way to buy into them. I have Argo and Afi Shares.
any information and your logic would be much appreciated.
Thanks.. Brad
Thanks Brad!
My opinion is favourable 🙂 Putting money away for the long term into Vanguard index funds – whether Oz or International – is an excellent choice.
There isn’t a best way really, whatever suits you best. Buying the ETFs on market (VAS & VGS) is the cheapest way, but going direct to Vanguard has other advantages, such as the ability to regularly BPay in small amounts and no share prices in your face which can be a huge mental advantage. So direct is more expensive but it’s more hands off, you can automate it more and it may help you make better decisions and stay invested when things get scary. Hope that helps.
Great post and I totally agree.
I think the problem is most people are brainwashed into believing consumerism is the answer, that the next shiny bauble will bring them happiness. They are trying so desperately to have it all they never even stop to question if they actually want it all. So they keep spending and spending. Any suggestion they might be in control of their own fate, that the problem isn’t that life is so hard for the “battler” is met with indignation and resentment,
Thanks Adam – great comment and very well put. I feel the need to say it whether it’s popular or not, because the ‘life is hard’ camp works tirelessly to ensure we all believe the game is rigged and we can’t do anything about it. It’s hard to turn those with a defeatist outlook, but we can try!
This is spot on Dave, I agree with your insistence on getting the saving under control first.
Cheers Lin!
Great article mate.
As the old saying goes
“It’s not about how much you can make, it’s about how much you can keep!”
My old man has been telling me that since I was a kid.
As you mention in the post, savings has the double whammy effect of enabling more to be invested while simultaneously requiring a smaller portfolio to fund your lifestyle.
And a dollar saved is a dollar earned, whereas a dollar earned is really only around 70c depending on your tax bracket.
Cheers Firebug. And yes spot on mate – for some folks a dollar earned is closer to 50 cents. But one dollar lower in spending means 20-25 dollars better off, as you now need 20-25 dollars less in investments to retire to cover that dollar of spending – incredibly powerful stuff that can’t be denied.
Timeless saying too, your old man did well to drum that into you!
“It’s not about how much you can make, it’s about how much you can keep!”
I’ve never heard that quote before, but I love it. I’ll be teaching that one to my munchkins when they’re old enough. Thank you!
Really enjoyed this article. So easy to forget how our savings and really a lot of people have no clue. i have a colleague who has shared a lot of the financial trouble she s in (and you wouldn t believe how a $600k person can do to be in trouble!). gave her my insights. the week after she suggested we climbed the harbour bridge as a fun work event – $250 each!!!
well if only she knew the power of saving coupled with the power of delay gratification…
Thanks for sharing that grogounet. It’s quite incredible the stories of people earning gigantic amounts and yet manage to get rid of it all, every year – sometimes for decades in a row. Before considering anything else, people have to decide to actually keep some of their income!
Love your insights and articles…it gives me great motivation and momentum in what I am trying to achieve with my own personal financial goals!!
That’s great to hear, thanks Money Penny!